tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post5286770253494835420..comments2024-03-27T10:02:56.747-04:00Comments on Fiction University: Revision Workshop: Day Two: Analyze the Character ArcsJanice Hardyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-71757985955387751502017-03-17T14:28:00.225-04:002017-03-17T14:28:00.225-04:00Glad it's helping. I have a friend who plots a...Glad it's helping. I have a friend who plots all her murder mysteries from the antagonist's perspective so she know how the murder was committed. It's a very useful technique. Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-6063204258115171552017-03-17T14:26:45.421-04:002017-03-17T14:26:45.421-04:00Thanks!Thanks!Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-56893605759220071892017-03-02T19:01:55.540-05:002017-03-02T19:01:55.540-05:00I have found that rewriting the synopsis from the ...I have found that rewriting the synopsis from the POV of the opponent/antagonist helps filling in some gaps in the story. I will definitely pay more attention to him. This is so helpful, I have to make copies and have a little binder for all the info. I also have your book, but cannot print it, so this is handy. Thanks!Sussuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060179011416062341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-10760322683908234812017-03-02T10:19:37.181-05:002017-03-02T10:19:37.181-05:00Janice, your insight and thorough detail are the b...Janice, your insight and thorough detail are the best I've seen. Thanks so much.Pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10641800481681697132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-85876667945511411612017-03-02T10:19:27.331-05:002017-03-02T10:19:27.331-05:00Janice, your insight and thorough detail are the b...Janice, your insight and thorough detail are the best I've seen. Thanks so much.Pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10641800481681697132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-34595573866357974082015-03-23T07:37:34.948-04:002015-03-23T07:37:34.948-04:00I don't think so. If it's a romance, and y...I don't think so. If it's a romance, and you see both POVs, then you would want to give them both characters arcs that ultimately end with them resolving whatever personal issues were keeping them apart. Pure romance (as opposed to stories with a romance element) are a little trickier since the two characters end up together, so they can't be "antagonists" to each other in the bad guy sense. Quite often, you'll see someone as a bad guy proxy who represents what's keeping the lovebirds apart, and that's the antagonist they need to deal with.Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-50548399688527941692015-03-22T17:43:34.057-04:002015-03-22T17:43:34.057-04:00Yes, that makes sense. Thanks. When analyzing the ...Yes, that makes sense. Thanks. When analyzing the character arc I feel like I need to make a character arc for both of them as a protagonist. In this story it's more internal conflict that keeps them apart, but maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Chris Olesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12791311724278884178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-77244659380367472562015-03-18T14:21:47.851-04:002015-03-18T14:21:47.851-04:00They can be, but there's usually another outsi...They can be, but there's usually another outside force affecting them. Family, societal pressures, bad timing etc. If it weren't for that outside force, they'd get together and be happy. Does that make sense? Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-84856625069003356052015-03-14T18:46:37.655-04:002015-03-14T18:46:37.655-04:00Regarding protagonist and antagonist, can you cons...Regarding protagonist and antagonist, can you consider the hero and heroine in a romance as both protagonists, and as antagonist to each other?Chris Olesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12791311724278884178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-38943236557644400102015-03-05T15:39:25.046-05:002015-03-05T15:39:25.046-05:00That always gives me such great insights into my s...That always gives me such great insights into my supporting characters. Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-42584342869310429042015-03-04T12:40:45.102-05:002015-03-04T12:40:45.102-05:00Closing in on catching up! I did the front matter ...Closing in on catching up! I did the front matter for my supporting cast too. I think that will help focus those people better.H. R. Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06715450637785127208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-29912242787763976822015-03-03T15:13:58.433-05:002015-03-03T15:13:58.433-05:00Most welcome :)Most welcome :)Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-78625508292619520672015-03-03T15:13:45.980-05:002015-03-03T15:13:45.980-05:00I'm so glad :)I'm so glad :)Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-90086868099723471762015-03-03T15:13:36.423-05:002015-03-03T15:13:36.423-05:00Excellent, I hope this helps you wrangle those dra...Excellent, I hope this helps you wrangle those drafts into shape.Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-19769476129142760382015-03-03T15:13:05.014-05:002015-03-03T15:13:05.014-05:00Thanks so much!Thanks so much!Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-47725584590024993712015-03-02T22:59:23.829-05:002015-03-02T22:59:23.829-05:00Whew, these are some great questions to ask about ...Whew, these are some great questions to ask about our characters. Thanks for the checklist.Julie Musilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02150454913885915017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-27945485251909272122015-03-02T22:22:56.532-05:002015-03-02T22:22:56.532-05:00Thank you so much, Janice! This is all so useful, ...Thank you so much, Janice! This is all so useful, and is really helping me move my ms along.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-39139149993908393652015-03-02T19:07:15.468-05:002015-03-02T19:07:15.468-05:00This is just what I needed! I have about six/seven...This is just what I needed! I have about six/seven first drafts and no idea what to do with them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-72973364797781695642015-03-02T15:53:19.391-05:002015-03-02T15:53:19.391-05:00This is an incredible series. Since I'm pushin...This is an incredible series. Since I'm pushing through this draft at the moment, I'm saving the links in a file to be studied later. Passing your blog along to my new critique group. You are such an asset to the writing community!!Carol Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444182118975929045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-48940857128044360272015-03-02T14:24:22.474-05:002015-03-02T14:24:22.474-05:00Whoot! Awesome. I love that feature in Word. Great...Whoot! Awesome. I love that feature in Word. Great tip, thanks!Janice Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356672149097741248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3901370917824739259.post-86319955273677100642015-03-02T10:07:10.129-05:002015-03-02T10:07:10.129-05:00Day two, first victory for the day, clarified the ...Day two, first victory for the day, clarified the inner conflict for protagonist #2 which then in provided the answer for some muddled logic about when he'd brought a minor antagonist into the mix. That point had been bugging me forever!<br /><br />My manuscript is in Word and something that's proving really useful are heading styles and the navigation pane. I've put my scene headings in Heading 2 style and my revision notes in Heading 3 style. When I turn on the navigation pane (click on 'find' and it appears on the left) All my headings appear in the pane. That makes it easy to navigate to each scene and to see where the changes happen in the bigger manuscript picture.<br /><br />Thanks for all the motivation and ideas! Maria Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06240186239574188022noreply@blogger.com